Thread: installing 696 this week

Getting a 696 mounted this week in our ctls. will put pics in when complete.

scrapman,

you may want to wait a bit....it's possible FD might have some good and useful news for you in the next few weeks. I'm waiting and it's not easy but should be worth it!

Roger H

A friend who keeps his BONANZA in the hangar next to mine installed a GARMIN 696 to replace his 396. It would not work on internal battery power. It did function OK on aircraft power. GARMIN techs confirmed that the batteries are defective and have new, improved ones on back order. I'd wait for FDs input prior to having a 696 installed in a CT. DonBo

Thanks for the tip guys. I will check with FD and also John Hirsch to see if they have any advice. a group of us from wi and minn are planning to take our cts to Sebring light sport week, if mother nature will let us out of this hell we have been living thru the last month. Actually got to move a 4 foot drift in front of the hanger Sunday and go flying for a couple hrs. it was as smooth as any dusk flight i have every experienced. Flying a clear winter afternoon with snow cover is a beatiful thing. Almost forgot about the previos 3.5 weeks of snow day after day. Oh by the way when i fired up the ls the temp in the hanger is a constant 45 farenheit, the engine started momentarily then stopped so violenly, i thought the crank or gear box had busted. I allways start with full choke and closed throttle. Anbody ever experience this more than usual abrupt stop of the engine? The oil temp was 46 degrees when i restarted.

45 degrees sounds fairly balmy compared to a couple of mornings that 0RF and I experienced on our recent journey. It was 26 degrees at Dalhart, TX on Dec. 4th. The wind was blowing across that ramp at about 12 knots, and I was afraid I was going to find out what "froze my balls off" really meant. Luckily we made it out of there intact. Saw OAT's of 17 F on the EFIS that day, but I had enough tape on the radiator that engine temps were in the green, and the cabin heat was working fairly well.

Not sure what you describe as a violent stop. The Rotax shut down takes a bit to get used to, and every time I turn it off it seems violent. In cold temps, you need to get the throttle up and choke out ASAP to keep it going.

Wish you good weather for the trip to Sebring.

Hi Scrapman,

This could occure accurance, but you should strive not to let it happen, you may have turned loose of the key a second too soon or it may have not had enough throttle/ fuel at that moment, who knows.
Closed throttle and full choke, make sure when it kicks over not to turn loose of the key until you know it is completely started. If you need to you can open the throttle about 10% for start, but don't open it any more because it will flood or worse over rev on start up while it's too cold. It has been in the 20's, 30's and 40's F here in Tucson, Az. the last few days and even snowed the day after X-Mas. I have been flying and starting with the temps in the 30's and it should not be a problem. Many guys fly with the temps much lower than you and I.

Originally Posted by scrapman

Oh by the way when i fired up the ls the temp in the hanger is a constant 45 farenheit, the engine started momentarily then stopped so violenly, i thought the crank or gear box had busted. I allways start with full choke and closed throttle. Anbody ever experience this more than usual abrupt stop of the engine? The oil temp was 46 degrees when i restarted.

hi

My 912 also did that when cold (~35-45¤F ) ...I hated that ..as it really looks like something's broken
do, I started to preheat it and the problem is solved.
I highly recommned that you preheat your engine.....it will tank you for that

I will try staying on the starter a little longer and crack the throttle just a smidge. I am quite familiar with the normal engine stop as i have 150 hrs logged in 499ct (our first 07 ctsw) and have 215hrs logged on 785K which was DARed in april 08. Weather permitting i use the ctls for daily commutes between our 4 scrap processing yards. Luckily each yard has a airport within 4 miles, and we keep an old junker car at each airport. I see in the AOPA article that Yossi took his ct to the Bahamas. We were going to try for Marsh Harbor while we were on the Florida trip. Anyone else been out there with a ct or light sport? We went to Marsh in a Columbia 350 last year ( we have a partner in the 350 and i cant get a medical ) It was a great weekend out there, but i want fly lower and slower and see more of the islands. Things go by way to fast in the Columbia and that damn wing is allways in the line of site for a great picture.

Hey gang good advise on ckecking with FD. Apperently the cabin - carb heat cables must go straight above their normal location. They had me call John Hirsch and they are making a bracket/housing that mounts on top of the glare shield to hold the cables. the cables wont work above the PFD because of an angle problem getting thru the fire wall. CTLS models will come with either the 496 or the 696.

Scrapman,
My son and I flew around the Grand Bahama in October and did some diving near Freeport. The island is fantastically pretty from the air and the CT is, of course, the best way to see it.
I have also experienced the violent stop you mention when trying to start the engine in cold conditions. The first was a cold morning in Albuquerque last February. It was almost like a backfire - the engine fired once but the prop came to a sudden stop with a bang.
It seems to start on the subsequent attempts anyway.
Next time I'm in similar conditions I'll try cracking the throttle and holding the starter longer.
Mike