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    Default 2006 CTSW For Sale

    My usual route from home to the farm has seen some significant changes in weather, which is prompting me to switch to an IFR platform. Alas, I'm not rich enough to own two planes, and must sell my very economical and fast CTSW.

    It does have some minor exterior damage history, which was completely repaired by Flight Design techs from Germany, and independenty checked by a specialist in composite aircraft and also by Lockwood, and declared good as new. It has been flown almost 40 hours since the repair and still has only 44 hours TT.

    My asking price is $82,500 but would also consider a trade for an IFR capable plane. It has the tundra gear, tan leather seats, night lighting package, UMA analog engine gauges, TruTrak ADI, KX 155 Nav/Comm, KT76a mode-C tranpsonder, and PS Engineering intercom with music input. Other than that, its a standard 2006 CTSW.

    More details and photos are available here:

    http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=280993

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    Default IFR

    HI Kennith,

    If you can wait just a little longer CT and Tecnam are being ok'ed by FAA for IFR. Call the FAA and ask Edsel Ford when the approval will come down. Just change the instrument panel some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Lee
    HI Kennith,

    If you can wait just a little longer CT and Tecnam are being ok'ed by FAA for IFR. Call the FAA and ask Edsel Ford when the approval will come down. Just change the instrument panel some.
    Are you serious? How in the world will this happen? I would think that there are a ton of potential problems, including:

    * Non-certified engine
    * No lightning protection in the airframe (ask DA20 owners about this one)
    * No pitot heat

    I would think that FDUSA would establish a minimum equipment list (MEL) for IFR approval. This would be based on the ASTM spec and not FAR 125.205, which covers minimum equipment for IFR flight. Here's my guess on what would be required:

    * Dynon EFIS on pilot's side (Dynon EMS might or might not be required)
    * Backup ASI and ALT if Dynon is used (standard with factory Dynon package)
    * At least one TSOed NAV source, e.g., SL30 to replace SL40
    * Factory night lighting package (or equivalent, e.g., TSOed strobe to replace LED beacon would be allowed)

    Note that the aircraft's operating limitations must also be modified by a DAR to include IFR operations.

    I've flown our CT under the hood and found it more challenging than a 172 due to the lower mass of the CT - it's harder to tightly hold altitudes and headings in the always bumpy lower atmosphere we have here. We have the analog panel with the ADI Pilot used for the horizon and heading reference and it worked fine.

    Analog panel CTs would need to be upgraded to the Dynon EFIS - I suppose you could install a horizon and directional gyro AND a CDI, but why? The Dynon is cheaper at $2800 with the bright screen and backup battery options. Install should run around $1,000 (backup ASI and ALT, running OAT sensor, power for Dynon, installing remote magnetometer).

    Don't get me wrong, I would be jumping up and down if I could use the CT for IFR training and then "light IFR" flight, even if it means $10k in avionics (cheaper than buying a new IFR airplane, and good luck getting operating costs like the CT!), but it seems like there are a lot of hurdles to clear...

    Doug
    190 hours in the CT and have loved every one.

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    Default Make a call

    Call Edsel Ford at the FAA and ask him when. Just relaying what has been published.

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    Kenneth,

    Is this plane still for sale??
    Bob

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    From all the hype would hope ct and tecnam cert for IFR would be any day now.Anyone think it might be done by Sebring?Could only increase sales for us pilots that want Light IFR capability.

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    Default Slow as Molasses

    The way FAA is moving IFR and a few other reg. changes are moving like molasses on a cold day. I have heard 6 months to a year out for some of the changes.

    I don't think anyone really knows when for sure.

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    The talk at Sebring was not looking good for IFR light sport.Seems the astm people are not to keen on the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdeurloo View Post
    Kenneth,

    Is this plane still for sale??
    I learned two days ago that this plane is in the process of being transferred to its new owner, and thus is no longer available. It looks like a flight school will be using this aircraft.

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